Connecting With Others In The Awakening Process
I want to share a conversation that I’m currently having with one of my readers, his name is Bob and with his permission I’ll share below what he wrote to me.
He wrote:
Dear Maria,
I think the content on your website has addressed my concerns.
I’ve been through a dark night of the soul, leaving me with substantially reduced ego and much reduced negative and involuntary thoughts.
Your website describes what I am experiencing now.
Eckhart Tolle’s teaching’s have taught me to be present and you have assured me that this no mans land feeling is normal.
The question I have is whether you could connect people going through this awakening process to share the experience and have liked minded people to talk to.
I find it difficult having no one to talk to and I’m sure others do.
With love and gratitude,
XX
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If you’d like to read my reply to his first email please go here:
mariaerving.com/be-open-about-your-awakening
The post below is a reply to the following email I received from him:
Dear Maria,
Thanks for your email and I was impressed with the speed of your response.
I read your response through the link that you provided but I couldn’t figure out where to write my comments where you say “leave your comments and thoughts below and continue the conversation”.
Hence this email.
I have no problem at all sharing my feelings, thoughts and experiences of my transition with people that really understand and can relate to the change that I am experiencing.
If I discussed this with my family and social circle they would have no idea what I was talking about and probably think I’d joined the Moonies!!
I have met a couple of people recently who described themselves as “spiritual” but I could tell that they had no appreciation whatsoever of my current state when I explained it to them.
When people claim to be spiritual I’m finding that this often means they have an academic interest in all things labelled spiritual but are not integrating this knowledge into their thinking, behaviour or using it to advance their spiritual development.
Recently I met someone that believed she was more far more spiritual than I am simply because she had read many books that I hadn’t!!
I appreciate the opportunities that you put forward to communicate with others via your blog and also to be able to talk to you.
They are useful indeed but I suppose I was thinking of also providing a forum that could lead to people who are at similar stages in their transition actually socialising in person, depending where they live in relation to each other, and perhaps becoming friends.
When I read the contents of my email on your website I realised that I hadn’t given you the credit you deserve for the content provided on your website.
It is wonderfully inspiring, very practical and well written.
Thank you so much I’m so glad that I found you.
I would like to meet/talk to you on Skype sometime soon and I will arrange this through the website.
I shall also try and figure out how to put my comments on the blog on your website rather than emailing you in future.
I would also love to be able to arrange for you to give a talk to a group locally but I just don’t know people that would be interested.
I am very happy for you to post this if you think it will help others and also to give out my name.
With much love and gratitude,
Bob xx
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Hi Bob,
Thank you for being so open and authentic, I love that 🙂
I absolutely love receiving questions and topic requests, and really; you all inspire me so much and I love writing for you so whenever I see an email with the subject-line “Ask Maria” it makes me so happy.
And I usually get right to it and write an article immediately if I have the time to do so simply because I love it 🙂
With that said, let’s move on to the next subject;
Please tell me if something is not working on my website!
I’m saying this to everyone that ever reads my site; please let me know if something is not working properly so that I can have it fixed.
Thank you Bob for telling me about the issue you’re experiencing when trying to comment.
Someone else pointed this out too to me earlier today, that he can’t see the comments section either.
I went to have a look to see what’s wrong but from my end it looks like it’s suppose to look:
Could you please let me know how it looks from you end so that I can fix it as soon as possible? (Maybe take a screenshot and send me?)
Thank you.
And for everyone else, if there is ever a problem with my site please let me know by emailing me of by using the form on this page:
mariaerving.com/report-a-problem
Back to your question;
I appreciate your openness and I also understand what you mean by people not understanding what you’re talking about.
There’s a difference between being “spiritual” and being “spiritually mature”, and I know exactly what it means and I experience it often in different ways.
A couple of months ago or so for example I arranged a spiritual meeting here in Costa del Sol where I was going to talk about self-awareness and intuition and about seven people came to my talk but only one of them ‘kind of’ got what I was talking about.
They actually thought that I was a psychic and was going to teach them how to communicate with ‘the other side’.
They thought that was what I meant with intuition, and the self-awareness subject was more or less pointless simply because the one who turned up to the meeting was their ego so they couldn’t actually hear what I had to say.
So anyway, I quickly realized that they were on a different level and so after that meeting I didn’t have anymore meetings at that particular place because the ‘audience’ was more of a new age type of audience and what I have to offer has nothing to do with that.
That’s just how it is; we are all on different levels of maturity but most people are still on a immature level of growth and consciousness.
I’m not saying it’s wrong or bad, I’m just sharing what I see and experience in my own life and in the work that I do.
I know that many people who are going through an authentic awakening process and that are dedicated to go through it come hell or high water has no one around them that has the slightest idea about what they are experiencing, so it can be a lonely path for many people.
Most people have no clue about what awakening is so they can’t relate to it in any way or form, it’s outside of their understanding and perception.
It’s like trying to explain grown-up things to children (and children are not ‘bad’ or ‘wrong’, they are just children), it’s just a fact of life that they can’t relate to or understand what you’re talking about.
On this path there’s not many who actually wake up because they never grow up spiritually, but for those who do go all the way through all the different processes and transformations that this path requires; it’s for those I want to be here for.
So thank you for your suggestion of adding a forum to my website, I think it’s a great idea that you presented to me so I will look into the possibility of creating one where people can socialize and meet and maybe form friendships and so on.
But it can take a few weeks for me to create and add one so until then I hope you all use the comments section to post your thoughts and whatever else is on your hearts, and as I mentioned before I also love when you submit questions and topic requests via “Ask Maria”.
And thank you for appreciating my work and what I do Bob, it means a lot to me to hear that it’s helpful and inspiring to you 🙂
As for sessions, talks etc: simply contact me and we’ll take it from there.
Thank you again for reaching out to me in such a sincere way and thank you also for the suggestion, I hope the forum will be a helpful addition to my website for those who wish to talk with like-minded people and form new friendships with others that can relate to what this path is really about.
Love,
Maria
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I wanted to comment on the previous post, but couldn’t. About being open about your experiences. I had to laugh at Bob’s description of how it goes when he talks about awakening around the wrong people. I’ve had that experience too. I keep the fact I have a black belt in karate to myself for similar reasons. It sounds like you are trying to show off or attract attention to yourself. Unless you get a clue you are around people who are like minded or ready to hear about what you know.
A forum is a good idea. I’m the guy who attended the teleclass, and I can tell anyone reading this it is well worth joining. I know of people who do what they call video hangouts, like it sounds, it’s a video conference call. I would get a webcam and headset just to do those here. So Maria you might look into that. I don’t think it’s Skype either, pretty sure there are free ways to do it.
Anyway, back to the sharing of the experience. Yes, it would be great to have more friends who “get” what we talk about here. And if reading books made you more spiritual, I imagine all of us would be Buddhas by now. But as a lot of us are finding out, books only contain concepts for the mind to chew on. And that’s the ego’s domain. I like what Bob said “When people claim to be spiritual I’m finding that this often means they have an academic interest in all things labelled spiritual but are not integrating this knowledge into their thinking, behaviour or using it to advance their spiritual development.” Well said sir.
Dear Maria,
I had a look at some other Posts on your website earlier and found that the facility to reply or comment only seems to be missing on some of them. Having said that I hope I am using this Leave a Reply facility correctly!! By the way I’m not sure how to do a screen shot. Sorry
Maria, I realised after writing to you earlier that it may have been a little selfish of me to suggest this and place a burden on you to create a forum. Thank you so much for your willingness to do this. I am prepared to contribute to any costs you may incur in setting it up but I’m afraid I am not techy so I couldn’t help in that regard but happy to help in other areas outside of website wizardry.
In a similar vein to Mark’s comments about the Buddha it reminded me of something Eckhart Tolle said in one of his talks about those that keep searching and reading more and more spiritual books without integrating that knowledge. It was something along the lines of “you don’t need more knowledge or information you already know more than the Buddha ever did.”
Thanks for letting me know about the comments issue, I have no idea why it’s not working on some of my articles but will have it fixed as soon as possible.
And thank you to Mark for sending me a screenshot – it helps a lot.
Bob;
I appreciate the suggestion so no need to feel selfish:)
I’ll see what I can do as there’s a lot to take into consideration that involves the technicality of things as well as the cost of course.
Thank you for offering to contribute, I appreciate it very much.
Should you feel to use the donation-button on my website you are very welcome to do so and I would gratefully receive any amount at any time, but I couldn’t ask you directly for it,
I don’t feel it’s appropriate to ask for any monetary help in regards to that, but I appreciate your offer and kindness 🙂
Mark;
It was great having you on the call and next time there will be no technical hiccups as I know what went wrong with the recording now 🙂
If you would like to be on the next live call that would be wonderful, it was great talking with you, but I also know that the time difference between us is not always fitting into your schedule so I understand if you’re not able.
Anyways, we’ll see what happens:)
Regarding video hangouts;
I know about them but at this point it’s not resonating with me to do them myself, but that could of course change suddenly.
I enjoy doing one-to-one sessions on Skype and my live calls (and other audios) so unless I’m invited or something (and I feel intuitively that it’s in the right context) it’s not really resonating at this point to do hangouts.
But again, things can suddenly change, I never know what Life wants to do through me next! 🙂
Thank you again both of you and I’ll look into the Forum thing and will let you know more later.
(And I let you know via Email when I have fixed the issue with not being able to comment on every post on my website as well).
All the best, always,
Maria
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Thanks for helping me understand that each of us would be on a different level regarding maturity. With that in mind, I should go to an awakening session with my partner so that we can both grow. It might help us individually that can positively affect our relationship of 10 years which has been on the rocks now.
Hi Millie,
You’re so very welcome, glad my article could help clarify.
You are very welcome to book a session with me and we’ll talk about everything together:
https://mariaerving.com/sessions
Speak soon then! 😊